Check out this recent podcast from the official podcast of the Santa Fe Institute (with a somewhat unorthodox title based on this book) that attempts to illuminate important aspects of communication and misinformation. 

Host Michael Garfield talks with Former SFI External Professor Carl Bergstrom and Jevin West, both at the University of Washington, who recently translated their undergraduate course on Calling [BS] into a book from Penguin Random House. 

From the episode description: 

“In this episode, we discuss their backgrounds and ongoing work in the evolutionary dynamics and information theory of communication, how to stage a strong defense against disinformation, and the role of scientists and laypeople alike to help restore the reasoned discourse we all so desperately need.”

Listen to the podcast here!  **Warning- salty language. “BS” features prominently.**